186: ‘Good News, My House Burned Down’ With Matthew Panzarino

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🗓️ 13 April 2017

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for an in-depth discussion of last week's "future of the Mac Pro" round table discussion between a handful of Apple executives and journalists who cover the company. We talk about what went wrong with the 2013 Mac Pro design, speculate on the timeline of when Apple made this decision, why touchscreen Macs are almost certainly a bad idea even though a lot of people think they want one, and more.

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0:00.0	We probably should have recorded last week, but I had stuff to do.
0:04.3	Here we are one week later after UNI saw each other in Cupertino for a mysterious, I think
0:10.3	it was built to me as a Mac roundtable.
0:13.1	How was it built to you in advance of our meeting last week?
0:16.6	Yeah, but the feature of the Mac or whatever.
0:22.9	So I went into it with a 50, I think in 5050 in my head whether this was going to be, that's
0:32.3	all I knew.
0:33.3	It was going to be about the Mac and it was going to be a roundtable discussion with a couple
0:36.1	of executives and a handful of members of the media.
0:43.0	And I went into it thinking, well, this has got to be about the Mac Pro because it's not
0:49.9	an event, the opposite of events, very small.
0:56.5	How can they have something about the Mac and not address the elephant in the room that
0:59.8	was the 1000 and some day old Mac Pro?
1:04.0	So I went into it thinking 5050, this is either going to be good news about the Mac Pro
1:07.3	or bad news about the Mac Pro.
1:09.4	Right.
1:10.4	We're done with the Mac Pro.
1:12.1	Or we're not done with the Mac Pro, but we can't show it yet and here's why.
1:17.6	What were you thinking?
1:19.4	Yeah, you're probably smarter than me.
1:20.9	I don't know.
1:21.9	I didn't really connect it directly to the Mac Pro, although in hindsight, it seems fairly
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