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🗓️ 21 May 2023
⏱️ 198 minutes
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0:00.0 | Your book is fascinating Black Ops and as well as Annie Jacobson's book where she mentions you, Surprise Kill Vanish, where she talks about some of the wilder aspects of the CIA. |
0:22.6 | I think it's called a rendition teams where they have to go in and kidnap people or basically |
0:28.0 | do kind of like the dirty work. |
0:29.7 | That's correct. |
0:30.2 | The hands-on work. |
0:31.9 | In your book, you quoted George Orwell. |
0:34.3 | You said, in the sleep, we sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand |
0:38.4 | ready in the night to do violence on those who would harm us. What does that quote mean to you? |
0:45.0 | Well, it means that people need to realize the risks that our warriors take. And I'm not just |
0:52.0 | talking about the agency. I'm talking about our special military guys, I'm talking about our DIA counterparts, DEA counterparts. |
0:59.1 | The risk that some of our men and women take to keep us sleeping nice at night, most people |
1:06.2 | do not, they cannot grasp that. |
1:10.1 | You know, the vision of the agency is primarily Hollywood. |
1:15.0 | And so everybody associates it with Jason Bourne, you know, a maniacal assassin with 17 personalities, |
1:20.5 | doing something that Congress doesn't know about. |
1:23.3 | That's all BS. |
1:25.4 | And, you know, the drug dealing CIA and, you know, the honey traps. |
1:29.9 | None of that is true. |
1:31.8 | So that's the difference. |
1:33.7 | I mean, I started out as a paramilitary officer. |
1:35.9 | I'm a former Air Force pararescueman, which is part of our Special Operations Forces. |
1:40.9 | And became a legitimate case officer and had legitimate case officer jobs and ranks, |
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