The following is a conversation with Brian Johnson, founder of Kernel, a company that has

developed devices that can monitor and record brain activity.

And previously, he was the founder of BrainTree, a mobile payment company that acquired Venmo

and then was acquired by PayPal and eBay.

Quick mention of our sponsors, ForSigmatic, NetSuite, Grammarly, and ExpressVPN.

Check them out in the description to support this podcast.

As a side note, let me say that this was a fun and memorable experience, wearing the

Colonel Flow Brain interface in the beginning of this conversation.

As you can see, if you watch the video version of this episode.

And there's a Ubuntu Linux machine sitting next to me collecting the data from my brain.

The whole thing gave me hope that the mystery of the human mind will be unlocked in the

coming decades, as we begin to measure signals from the brain in a high bandwidth way.

To understand the mind, we either have to build it or to measure it.

Both are worth a try.

Thanks to Brian and the rest of the Colonel team for making this little demo happen.

And now is time for the advertisement part of the program.

I try to make these things interesting.

I give you timestamps.

So if you want to be cheeky, you can skip.

But please still check out the sponsors by clicking the links in the description.

We are really picky about the sponsors we take on.

So hopefully if you buy their stuff, it's actually going to be useful.

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