The Joe Rogan,

Rogan, Experience.

Train by day, Joe Rogan, all day.

Joshua, my brother, we're going.

Joshua, my brother.

What's up, man?

Good to see you, my friend.

It's great to see you always.

Please introduce your friend.

Man, it's hard to introduce the unintroducible so this is Derek Hamilton who has been

Regarded by the New Yorker as the most prolific jailhouse lawyer that ever lived.

He is single-handedly responsible for freeing probably over 100 people, including himself.

He spent three decades in jail for murders that he didn't commit. He was framed by one of the most

horrific corrupt cops in the city of New York's history,

so by the name of Scarcella.

But more than that, he's become known as one of the biggest and most effective criminal justice

reform advocates in the country.

And I'll tell you, get into it a little bit more later, but Derek is not a miracle, he's a force of

fucking nature. And I'll tell you a little bit about how we met and how we got involved together.

So, probably about nine years ago, Jay-Z wanted to get into boxing.

And Rock Nation started a promotional company

to promote boxers, and Andre Ward was one of them. So we were on the opposite

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