Okay, so I'm excited about what we're going to do today.

Very excited about it.

Tell me more.

We've got a mutual friend of the podcast that we both know.

I would like to bring this person on but I have a question for you that we have to resolve before we move forward

Is it okay if I don't act surprised when we bring him on since he's just kind of over there looming in the other part of the room?

It is okay. Okay, cool. But I have to answer this question. Yeah, sure. Okay, so on the

podcast you, years ago, you came up with a term that's very interesting. It's called the third chair.

Oh, yeah. Okay, explain the third chair just so the third chair knows about the third chair.

Well, there are two different types of conversations you have one on one with a friend.

One is the kind you know nobody else is going to participate in or here, and therefore there's

no reason to be cognizant of that other person because it's not for them and they're not here.

But then there's a kind of conversations you and I have where from a practical perspective

it's not exactly easy or feasible to invite everyone who is going to be sitting in on the conversation with us to a microphone,

but still we're cognizant of them and we're having the conversation for us, but we're also having it because we care about

whoever's sitting in the third chair and we think about them when we talk about things

so the third chair seemed like a way to acknowledge that what we're doing

here it's it's friendship it's conversational and by

sharing it yes the third chair in the in the relationship that's a good thing so to be

clear the person listening to this podcast right now...

They're in the third chair.

They're in the third chair.

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