Hey, welcome back. You're on air with Ella. I'm so glad that you were here. Listen, before we jump

into episode 185, where I have not one, but two stellar guests today, well, that's the good

news. The bad news is I've actually never recorded three people in three different locations,

including two different countries, and I didn't do a great job. My sound quality in this interview

is not on par with where I'd like it to be. Now, the great news is my two guests, Tilly Harris and

Andrea Owen, they sound pretty good. So I'm the one you got to put up with. I'm so sorry about that.

So bear with me, and thank you so much. This show, as always,

would never get aired unless the content were far superior even to some quality issues. So

stick around. There's some really amazing content here. This show is about a topic we're

diving into particularly because this month, if you're listening to this in real

time, is our 21 days of no alcohol challenge. Now, Tilly and I are doing a different challenge

every month for 21 days. And September, of course, for those of you who are up to speed,

September is 21 days of no alcohol. That brought up a lot of issues that we're going to jump in on

today's episode about gray area drinking. But I wanted you to know before we got into the

details, a couple of things. You can still join the challenge in our private Facebook group.

But be aware when you're looking for the private Facebook group. The best way to get it is just

to scroll through the notes, the description of the show on your phone, and click on the link. It'll take you right there. Or you can go to the website for this episode 185 and click on the links that I put in there. Whenever I say the show notes, I mean the show descriptor or the website post. Either one will do. Why am I telling you this? Because some of you has searched

for 21 days of and gotten some really wonky pages or just pages that just aren't us. So I just wanted you to know that. You'll know you're there when you see a picture of Tilly and I at the top. And it says, September, no alcohol. Like, you can't miss it. You'll know it once you get there. Okay. The other thing I wanted to share with you about this show is I want to encourage you to share this show. I mean, I always want you to share

the show if we're being honest. But what I mean is there may be somebody in your life you think

maybe could benefit from hearing the show. Now, it might not always be the right thing to do to text

them the show or to send it to them in the

breaker app, but you could just take a screenshot and share it in social media. Something like that,

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