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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

185: Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

“Sometimes artists have to take a chance and be vulnerable.”  Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad are two such artists, whose brilliance is in large part due to their vulnerability.  Drew was once heralded by Rolling Stone as “one of Americana’s most popular stars,” and yet he is quick to note that “the human heart was not built for notoriety.” He describes the complex road he took to full-time artistry, his relationship with his fans, the tragic loss of his brother, and more.  Audrey found success in the Christian music industry, until her quest for authenticity and truth led her in a new direction. She shares her story, speaking honestly about traumas and doubts that brought her to where she is now.  Show Notes  Resources mentioned this episode:  Drew’s website  Audrey’s website  "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk  Similar NSE episodes:  Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded  Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty  Joy Oladokun: Listen, Love, and Turn the Other Cheek  Transcription Link  Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows  Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com  See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy  Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Each week, I sit down with Savannah Locke, a self-admitted pop culture expert, and she helps me catch up on everything I've missed, which given that I do not own a cell phone is quite a bit.

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