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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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News, Government, Politics

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🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Does the Leader of Scottish Labour regret calling for Keir Starmer to resign over his appointment of Peter Mandelson as US Ambassador? In the upcoming election, would he consider putting Scottish Labour into a coalition with the Reform Party to defeat the SNP? How does he plan to tackle the rise of Islamophobia and the politics of despair that are increasingly gripping Scotland and the UK? Rory and Alastair are joined by Anas Sarwar, Leader of the Labour Party in Scotland, to discuss all these questions and more. __________ Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. __________ Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: therestispolitics@goalhanger.com __________ Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Exec Producer: Chris Sawyer General Manager: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You did call for the Prime Minister Kiyosama to resign, right? I mean, that's a big deal for

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a Labour leader in Scotland. I was making it abundantly clear that my first priority and my first loyalty is to my country, Scotland, and frankly, I don't really care what people in Westminster think, I only care what people in Scotland think. You must care who the Prime Minister is. Look, I'm not doing it to run against a UK Labour government, I'm running against a Scottish SMP government. Let's be honest. Are we spending every penny of public money well? We're not. We will demonstrate to the rest of the UK how you can win on the politics of hope and unity, not feed off the politics of despair. I guess you're very politely skirting around one of the massive things. I'm happy not to be polite, Rooney, Don't let me skirt. Cut to the chase. I'm happy to cut to the chase.

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