Welcome back to Spartan Up the podcast. I'm Separra. I got Colonel Nye and Johnny Waitt and our producer Marion behind the camera.

This week we're with Steve Lulick, a great mentor, amazing naturalist. The guy knows everything when you're in the woods. Navigation, I don't know, he's just like one of those people that just when you watch him and you walk behind him you're learning and he's such a a cool guy good I can't wait to hear it

yeah Steve Lulick let's listen.

We are here for Spartan up podcast in my favorite place in the whole world, Pittsfield, Vermont, at the farm.

I am with Steve Lulick.

Who the heck is Steve Lulick?

That's what I said.

He's ex-military?

Yes, retired military. After I retired from the military I was

always passionate about taking the things that I've learned in the military and

having that as a job. in the adventure world is something that I am very passionate about but authentic adventure events and I really wanted to create that and so with my wife as my right-hand person and making things happen for me I

had these ideas and this passion things kind of fell into place for me to achieve

these rock climbing gyms, one then the other over time.

And then with that, create a guide service.

And with that guide service to have both introduction to adventure, real adventures, but then to make

offshoots of that to educational ventures.

Why do we need adventures? I mean we got TV's we got iPhones movies on demand co-op like

why do it like it seems pretty old school to go out on an adventure.

People are losing the disconnect of what they can really do

from pushing themselves, but also the disconnect from just sitting down in the old

cliche of smelling the roses, but to actually listen to the trees,

to understand what this environment can do and to calm our inner soul.

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