The following is a conversation with Catherine DeClear, a professor of planetary science and astronomy at Caltech.

Her research is on the surface environments, atmospheres, and thermochemical histories of the planets and moons in our solar system.

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Like all experiments, it was a learning experience for me.

It had some positives and negatives.

Ultimately, I decided to return back to doing it the way I was doing before, but hopefully with a team who can help me out and work with me long term.

The point is, I will always keep challenging myself, trying stuff out, learning, growing, and hopefully improving over time.

My goal is to surround myself with people who love what they do, are amazing at it, and are obsessed with doing the best work of their lives.

To me, there's nothing more energizing and fun than that.

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