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The Talk Show With John Gruber

184: ‘Hubbo Is in Decline’ With Merlin Mann

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2017

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

The one and only Merlin Mann returns to the show. Topics include modern plumbing technology and product marketing, the intricate ordeal of switching from iCloud’s old two-step authentication to the modern two-factor authentication, and the future of voice-driven UI/AI. Also, a wee bit of follow-up on our post-election November 9 Holiday Party.

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0:00.0

Oh boy, I want you to start locking everything down.

0:04.1

Wow, do you unlock, ask your question.

0:08.0

Yeah, you can ask me anything.

0:09.1

Do you, um, me cut this out?

0:11.2

Do you unlock your Mac with your watch?

0:13.7

I do.

0:14.7

Wow, but I don't wear my watch every day.

0:18.4

But it's one of my favorite features and it's actually one of the main motivators for

0:23.0

me to wear my watch because I love that feature so much.

0:27.4

I do.

0:29.4

It, and I find that it works amazingly.

0:31.8

It works, you know, it's over 80% of the time, which is good.

0:35.3

But, uh, man, switching it was a good excuse to finally switch over from two

0:40.4

steps to two factor.

0:42.5

Wow.

0:44.0

That's a heck of a thing.

0:45.8

I did it and I got to tell you, I put it off for a long time.

0:52.2

I only did it several weeks ago.

0:56.8

There was like an update to, um, I forget if it was a macOS update or an iOS update where

1:03.2

one of the features was, hey, you know, we came out with this unlock your Mac feature

1:07.4

with your watch back in October, whatever, but we made it really fast now.

1:11.1

And I was like, you know what?

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