What's up ladies and gentlemen boys and girls around the world I would like to welcome you back to the real talk with Zuby podcast on today's episode

we have got on the president of the Mises Institute and this is the one and only Jeff Deist welcome to the show okay good morning Zuby good to talk to you

100% Jeff great to have you on so I've done a very brief intro there with just your title but for people who aren't familiar with who you are in your work please tell them a little bit about you

well what what we hope the Mises Institute is is sort of a radical anti school a counter school a lot of bad economics out there a lot of bad politics a lot of bad philosophy so we really exist to try to counter all that

and give people a place where they can go outside of their university setting or their high school or whatever they may have things they have to unlearn in life so that's really what we're about and we're rooted in the Austrian School of Economics

which is you know Harkens back to the 1800s and has a whole different way of looking at money and banking and how markets work and everything but it's it's essentially tied in with the broader ideas of culture and civilization and property and freedom

and you know it's just interesting to me how organizations like ours interact with what's really all these growing independent voices

so it's it's fascinating for me to see what's going on out there I mean someone like you someone like a Joe Rogan you know we can talk about the intellectual dark web all these different voices there's just so many people who are coming up now as individuals rather than institutions

I think that's a very important trend and I think I hope the Mises Institute has been a small part of that

so how did you get involved in the Mises Institute?

Well I went through sort of a I guess an obnoxious iron ran period in my early youth got over that pretty quickly

and just I've always been I guess a real hardcore anarchist never really saw much use for the state I always thought that just intuitively that all the things that government tells us that can provide the market can provide better

and you know that's that's a pretty mainline perspective today you have people like Michael Malice out there but you know 25 years ago that wasn't so typical that was that was considered pretty radical

and you know the beautiful thing about what's happened in the last let's say five years I don't know if Trump caused it or Trump was a symptom of it

but I mean you know this better than me people are rethinking everything top to bottom institutions economy politics school relationships the whole thing

so you know in that sense it's exciting because I think technology is giving us these new platforms you know this ability to be independent and reach people without having to go to the gatekeepers and the editors and all of that

it's it's it's actually you know we think that that the I guess I'll say the left we think that the left is so overbearing today and so woke and we're sure and everyone's being canceled and you can't say this and God forbid you misgender someone

but in in another sense you know we're a hell of a lot freer intellectually than we've probably been in decades I mean universities were so morbid just these you know these tenured professors sitting there talking about how socialism's inevitable

I mean compared to thirty forty years ago really we live in pretty interesting times I mean it's pretty incredible to just be online

yeah absolutely I mean one thing with being online is as you said it allows every single individual to have a voice

which as we've seen as seems to be both a pro and a con on a surface level I always say the best thing about social media is everybody has a platform

but the worst thing is that everybody has a platform but I'm a big fan of the so-called marketplace of ideas and of course pretty much a free speech absolutist

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