You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show.

My guest today, I have two, Barry Weiss and Bion Bartening. Barry is an American opinion

writer and editor from 2013 to 2017. She was an op-ed and book review

editor at the Wall Street Journal where I first met her because I reviewed for them.

And she was one of my often editors of my pieces, which improved greatly because of her.

From 2017 to 2020, she was an op-ed staff editor and writer about

culture and politics at the New York Times and she famously departed there with

a very public statement that you can find online. She's the author of how to fight

anti-Semitism, here it is, really good book, and the forthcoming the new seven

dirty words. I don't know what those seven are but I can imagine they're not

what George Carlin said they were back in the 70s. Anyway she now writes at Barry Weiss substock, substock.com, that is Barry, B-A-R-I-W-E-S-S- dot sub-Stac.

And she's starting her own podcast. Bion Bartening is an entrepreneur investor in New York City, and I first encountered him with

an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, and all of this led to the two of them founding their new organization Fair,

which we're going to discuss on this podcast,

that is Foundation Against Intolerance.

And racism, it'll become clear when I read a portion of this Wall Street Journal piece

he wrote about how Wokeness invaded his children's posh New York City Private School

Riverdale, price $58,000 a year to attend. That fall the school began to focus on

privilege and white fragility. The school began teaching the children to monitor each

other for allys ship and deviation from woke

orthodoxy. It began dividing parents up into affinity groups by race. Here's what he wrote. We started to ask questions, he and his

wife and other parents. I've always felt a strong connection with Martin Luther King

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