The Joe Rogan

Experience Train by Day, Joe Rogan, all day.

Uh, first of all,

all, thanks for coming, man.

Thank you for having me.

Well, when I got the request and I read the title and the subject of your book, I was

immediately hooked.

I was like, dude, I got to get this guy in

quickly the romance of reality how the universe organizes itself to create life

consciousness and cosmic complexity.

Yep.

Does the how do we know this?

How do we know how the universe organizes?

Is this a guessing?

First of all tell people what you do.

I mean I think it was an intuition that I had.

Can you tell people like what you do like what your field of studies?

But yeah so you know this is this is all backed by complexity science and when I say complexity science that's really not one field.

It's an integration of all of the sciences.

So physics, biology, cognitive science, computer science, and yeah, from those sciences, we're getting a new picture of the universe and cosmic evolution and the role that life may play in the process.

So my background, I'm a cognitive neuroscientist, I got my PhD from George Mason University. I was really

interested in the problem of consciousness. So how does the brain create

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