182 - What Exactly is a "Transcendent Sense of Gender"? with Alex Byrne

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Sasha and Stella welcome Alex Byrne, philosopher and author of Trouble with Gender, to explore the evolving concept of gender, its historical roots, and the myths that shape modern discourse. Byrne offers an erudite yet accessible analysis of the term "gender," reflections about how much the term has changed and the far-reaching implications of those changes, and insights on influential figures like Jack Turbin and John Money.

Expect a thought-provoking conversation exploring; the complexities and confusion surrounding the different meanings and uses of the terms 'sex' and 'gender', the concept of gender identity and its relationship to sex and gender dysphoria, the work of Jack Turban and his book 'Free to Be', and the misunderstood and misrepresented nature of DSDs and the need for more attention and understanding.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.
0:04.4	And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.
0:08.6	And this is Gender, a wider lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.
0:16.0	Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse around this hot button issue.
0:25.0	Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.
0:31.0	Howdy, Stella? How's it going? How's life? Life is going well. I have to say it is summer and we're
0:40.1	rockin and rolling with our amazing podcast guests and today we had on Alex
0:44.8	Byrne and it was so great to talk to him he wrote this amazing book the trouble
0:49.8	with gender and we got to pick his brain he's he's a philosopher and he's done a deep dive into
0:55.8	studying the concept of gender as it exists now and gives us a bit of a history about the word and how it's used and it's pretty remarkable to think back about how much this term has changed and all of the implications of that.
1:12.0	Yeah, in this episode I think quite a few listeners will find that there's a few myths
1:17.7	that have, that need to be maybe debunked or certainly explored and Alex does a good job in exploring and certainly the history of the
1:25.0	the history of the word gender, I think there's a kind of a presumption
1:30.0	that a lot of people are working on that isn't quite correct and I think Alex gives a very good
1:35.1	analysis of how that word came to be and how we are using it now so it's it's really quite
1:40.9	informative Alex is evidently incredibly erudite and his book is actually
1:46.7	very witty, trouble with gender. It's a very witty, very interesting, he wears his
1:51.3	learning lightly and he you know he's learning lightly and you know he's fun with the facts but he does
1:57.2	have an awful lot of information stacking up behind him yeah he also tells us
2:01.8	about his critique of Jack Turbine's new book, Free To Be, and Jack Turbine is a really
2:09.5	influential psychiatrist and writer and commentator who's often kind of sought out by the media to talk about gender
2:17.8	Distress and youth and Jack Turban is one of these people who dogmatically supports the gender affirmation model in the face of contrary evidence.
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