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Geek's Guide to the Galaxy - A Science Fiction Podcast

182. The Shaver Mystery: Sci-Fi's Strangest Hoax (with Fred Nadis)

Geek's Guide to the Galaxy - A Science Fiction Podcast

David Barr Kirtley

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4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2015

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Fred Nadis joins us to discuss his book The Man From Mars: Ray Palmer’s Amazing Pulp Journey, about one of the science fiction field's most notorious hoaxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Wired.com presents the Geek's Guide to the Galaxy. And here is your host, David Barr-Kirtley.

0:20.0

Hello and welcome to episode 182 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy.

0:25.0

Our guest today is Fred Nadis, author of the non-fiction book The Man from Mars, Ray Palmer's

0:29.8

Amazing Pulper's Amazing Pulper journey.

0:32.0

Palmer was a key figure in early science fiction fandom and his tireless

0:35.2

promotion of the genre eventually landed him his dream job as the editor of

0:38.6

the Pulp Science Fiction magazine Amazing Stories. But Palmer earned the ire of many fans when he began

0:43.8

suggesting that some of the stories he published might actually be true. These were

0:47.8

the so-called Schaefer mystery stories about a subterranean race of evil

0:51.7

aliens.

0:52.8

Palmer's wild claims sold a lot of magazines,

0:55.3

but also caused science fiction fans to be associated with

0:58.0

UFO conspiracy theorists,

0:59.9

leading some fans to label Palmer,

1:01.7

the man who killed science fiction.

1:03.9

And now here's our interview with Fred Nadis.

1:07.6

All right, so we're here with Fred Nadis.

1:09.0

Welcome to the show.

1:10.5

Hi, great to be here.

1:12.4

Okay, so your book is about Ray Palmer, who is the editor of the Pulp Science Fiction magazine Amazing Stories,

1:17.0

but before he became an editor, Palmer was actually a major figure in early science fiction fandom.

1:21.0

So tell us about that.

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