getting red-pilled on the Pope over the past five years. Many people initially had some misgivings about

Pope Francis or some of his statements, but as time has gone on as a Morris Letizia came out and the Dubia and moving into the American

Catholic abuse crisis more and more people are saying you know what there's

something wrong in this pontificate today we're talking about being red-pilled on Pope Francis, a reference to the

Matrix, taking the red bill, and seeing reality for what it is. Tim Gordon's with us and also

Patrick Coffin of Confination, former host of Catholic Answers Live, the author of the Contraceception Deception,

appropriate for the 50th anniversary of Humana Vite.

Patrick Coffin, welcome.

Thanks you, and thanks to you, sir.

That's how the Canadians say it. Too much with two small space.

T-Mart and T-B-Bord, great to be with you guys. Yes absolutely. So we've already

spoken about our kind of progress on getting red-pilled, taking the red pill and making that uncomfortable,

that's not really a decision, but I guess having the epiphany that the leadership in the

Catholic Church not just locally in the USECB but in the Cardinals and even in the

Holy See with Holy Father Pope Francis that we have some bad things, some confusing things,

and it's no longer acceptable just to stand aside and pray and be quiet, we have to actually say something.

Priests, bishops, but even the lady should get involved and say, hey, something is not

right here. We don't like what we see and we want something to change. So in your

experience over the past five years were you one of the people day one or has

it been something more recent where you say you know there's something not right here.

Taylor I have tried to retrofit how my red pill consumption went down.

Like a spoonful of, you know, big sugar. I've been wincing my way through this papacy.

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