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Conspirituality

182: Recovering from Conspiracy Theories (w/Stephanie Kemmerer)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

What is it like to get red-pilled, find a fragile community of peers, and then come out on the other side? What are the personal, social, and political wounds that make conspiracy theories feel like medicine—or a drug? What is the difference between debunking theories and healing wounds? Today the trio discusses excerpts of an interview Matthew recorded with Stephanie Kemmerer, a former conspiracy theorist and now public educator. Stephanie is part of a newly formed non-profit called The American Information Integrity Alliance and co-facilitator of the support group DOUBT: Discussing Our Unusual Beliefs Together. Kemmerer’s journey tells us a lot about how people fall into the rabbit hole, how they can claw their way back out. But she also suggests that the rabbit hole is really a hole in the culture, and that there’s plenty we can do to fill it in. Butcherbox Promo: Sign up today at butcherbox.com/conspirituality and use code conspirituality to choose your free steak for a year and get $20 off. Show Notes American Information Integrity Alliance D.O.U.B.T. (Discussing Our Unusual Beliefs Together) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is a Blast Box Media Podcast.

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World Trade Center Building 7, UFOs, satanic ritual abuse.

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Today we ask, what gets someone deep into conspiracy theories and what might get them out?

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We've got an interview today with a former true believer with whom we discuss loneliness, trauma, and how conspiracy theorizing

0:26.3

can feel like an addiction.

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Hey everyone. Hey everyone, welcome to conspiratoriality, where we investigate the intersection of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience, and authoritarian extremism.

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And this week we can add how you never really know how much sense a conspiracy theory makes

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until you talk with someone who believed in one.

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I'm Derek Barris. I'm Matthew Rimsky. I'm Julian Walker.

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We are on Instagram at Conspiratoriality Pod and you can access all of our episodes ad free plus our Monday

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