And the way we typically do it is we'll say to the defendant, look, we'll start settlement negotiations at $5 million if you make no changes.

If you make the following 10 changes, we'll start settlement negotiations at $2 million.

That's Randy McGinn, high-profile trial attorney and senior partner at McGinn-Montoya-Love and Curry.

We have always practiced something that I call transformative law, which is that in every case, we try to find a way to make a change so that this doesn't happen to somebody else.

Yeah. so that this doesn't happen to somebody else. I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started which is $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth

within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed welfare

owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative

market leaders from

the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

Today, we're revisiting one of our most popular episodes in the podcast where I sat down with

the litigating legend Randy McGinn to discuss what separates good trial lawyers from the great ones, how to leverage skeptics and naysayers as fuel for growth, and why accepting accountability for your decisions and outcomes is necessary to making your vision a reality. You want a dream to happen? You've got to make it happen. No one's going to make that happen for you. And so that's what I figured out early on.

In fact, Michael, some older lawyer said to me, how did you learn how to do all this stuff?

Did you have a mentor?

No, I didn't, because there weren't any.

And you just figure it out on your own.

And, of course, you make a lot of mistakes along the way.

That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney Podcast.

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