It is an extremely high pressure instance when you are about to go up against a defendant.

A purpose of the other evidence is to show that he's not such a good guy.

Have you ever in your life seen a flame do that make a turn like that?

And he said no and I said so are we to believe that the law of physics was somehow suspended

at your campsite that day?

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worc case.

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer

of CBS's Criminal Minds and with me today is...

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor Jim.

I'm on the edge of my seat.

I could not be more excited because we have a fabulous guest back and she's going to continue

one of the tales from her case files.

And she is...

Hi Jim and Francie, it's Kay Wentfree again still sitting in my dining room alone with

my two dogs.

So I'm delighted to see you guys again and happy to continue my tale and I hope that you've

been thinking of all kinds of fun questions to ask me about this really different case

that we've been talking about.

Absolutely and we want to also ask you questions about your two dogs.

So...

Yes, when have I ever not had questions?

In fact, it's one of the things occasionally I tune into the iTunes comments to see what

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