So how did you get into this whole world of

Asoteric stuff and religion and the history of all of this?

How did you get into this subject?

Well, I've been studying the occult, the esoteric, the conspiratorial for about 15 years now.

I'm 28 years old.

I started researching this stuff when I was about 13, 14.

Keep that thing a little bit closer.

Yeah, 13, 14.

But prior to that, my entire life has pretty much revolved around this stuff I've had a lot of

experiences all throughout my life that have led me on this path primarily being the fact that

I grew up in a religious family both Christian and Catholic so as a kid I never liked church

still don't like the institution of it or anything.

But I was always fascinated by the Bible itself and the stories and everything.

And so I always had that fascination for legends and the mysticism behind religions.

And that fascination led me down this path as a kid.

And also as a kid, I was always rebellious.

I was the youngest of four.

So I was influenced by my older brothers listening to a lot of classic rock,

gangster rap and stuff like that.

And with just a rebellious kid, never liked authority.

It was always an independent thinker.

And then so when I started, you know, smoking cannabis and doing psychedelics

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