#181 - Tom Bilyeu - AI, Bitcoin & the Rigged Economy
The Peter McCormack Show
Peter McCormack
4.7 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary
Tom Bilyeu joins me to discuss debt, money printing, broken politics, AI, Bitcoin and why the economy feels rigged against ordinary people.
Tom argues that every empire eventually faces the same test: whether it can hold the power of the money printer without printing itself into oblivion. We talk about inflation, the debt cycle, asset prices, populism, Britain’s decline, and why the working and middle class are being squeezed.
We also get into AI and the future of work. I talk through my own recent experience building a system in seven days that would once have taken a full team and hundreds of thousands of pounds, and Tom explains how AI has already changed the structure of his business.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - The Economy Is Rigged
00:01:09 - Are We Driving Off a Fiscal Cliff?
00:03:04 - Debt, Money Printing and Inflation
00:04:36 - The Final Boss of Economics
00:07:02 - America’s Founding and Wealth Extraction
00:10:19 - Can America Be Saved?
00:11:46 - Economics Has Physics
00:16:06 - Debt, Cancellation and Freedom
00:19:03 - The Thucydides Trap
00:21:42 - Politics Has Not Been Disrupted
00:25:15 - Populism and the Shrinking Pie
00:29:07 - Asset Inflation Is Vile
00:35:59 - UK Politics Is Breaking Down
00:40:36 - Is Sweden Really Socialist?
00:42:40 - Where Is the Hope?
00:50:16 - Tom’s View on Bitcoin
00:53:17 - Peter’s AI Eureka Moment
00:57:56 - How AI Changed Tom’s Business
01:03:02 - The Four Futures of AI
01:12:56 - Is Reality a Simulation?
01:24:34 - Tom’s Final Warning
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| 0:00.0 | Every empire in human history has failed the test of can you hold the one ring of being the reserve currency and not print your way to oblivion. |
| 0:09.0 | We will literally be in a race against AI to see if AI can bring in the age of abundance before we drive off a fiscal cliff. |
| 0:18.0 | The average person does not map this to debt and money printing. |
| 0:21.3 | We have just absolutely decimated the working in middle class. |
| 0:25.6 | We're getting poorer and people are starting to feel that the middle class is getting squeezed. |
| 0:29.9 | Small businesses are closing. High streets are dead. There's potholes in the streets. There's |
| 0:34.6 | rubbish everywhere. Nothing works in this country anymore. |
| 0:37.8 | The game is rigged. This is exactly how it's rigged and how you fix it. While it's the way that it is, invest like this. |
| 0:44.6 | You have to remember you have agency, that you can do things. The pain and suffering that you feel right now is because the economy has been knowingly rigged against you, knowingly rigged against you. |
| 0:55.4 | It's done through debt and money printing. |
| 0:58.4 | And unless you solve that, nothing else matters. |
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| 1:32.2 | We get sort of like the edge of civilization figuring out what's going on and then have to kind of |
| 1:38.3 | try and process it. And so I'm really intrigued broadly to ask you where you think we are as a civilization and where |
| 1:45.9 | we're going. Okay. I'll speed run it and then you can sort of press on it. The world moves in |
| 1:52.4 | incredible cycles that are basically tied to economics. If you, once you understand how much |
| 1:58.9 | is controlled by the debt cycle, then it really starts |
| 2:01.2 | to get scary. In the West, we're in a really bad place from the big debt cycle. So I'm a big, |
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