Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

For us to only say that, well, let's just talk about the economy. Let's not talk about

race. We fall into the same trap about the arguments about, well, this is an economic

issue. This is not a racial issue. When, in fact, the people's life experiences are shaped

by their identities. And they're more than just their class identities. All of their

different identities perspective come into play and especially race and especially because

in a country where the schism and divide has been based on a country and a history that

is oppressed communities of color, we cannot have just an economic focus message that doesn't

also explain and impact communities, how this is going to impact communities of color.

And I think that's actually where you've seen a little bit more of a shift. I think

even some of the left of the Bernie Sanders type of rhetoric where 2016, having some difficulty

connecting with some black voters and then obviously some of those difficulties continued

in 2020. However, more of his messaging as of late has really been tying together economic

and racial justice issues.

We were playing catch up during the Thanksgiving period. Saga went off to Thanksgiving in Costa

Rica. So he wasn't exactly able to record any episodes. He also is in the middle of

celebrating the six month anniversary of breaking points. So that people haven't given him any

shout outs on the really great success they had ever with their please do so. But I had

to record an episode because we're committed to continuing putting out really great content

and conversation. So I thought what I would do is have a follow up episode to the one

I did with John McWhorter, Columbia University professor, New York time columnist and author

of woke racism, which is basically pushing back on modern social justice civil rights discourse

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