Welcome to Leadership Now with Dr. Aaron Rock, hosted on Beachhead Media and other podcasting platforms.

Aaron has served as a pastor, chaplain, denominational leader, professor, and writer, and he has a desire to help others think Christianly about all of life.

On this show, we discuss the nuts and bolts of theology, church life, ethics,

apologetics, culture, politics, and other issues to help you lead better now.

So, welcome to 2025. We are back with another episode of Leadership Now with Dr. Aaron Rock.

And we are back to our discussion revolving around Kiperian politics.

If you haven't gotten a chance to listen to some of those previous episodes in the series,

I'd highly recommend going back and giving those a listen.

We've covered the issues of authority,

law, secularism, justice. And we're now on our final episode in the series. And today we're

going to be talking about the church and the state. Right on, Jesse. Thank you. Yeah,

and happy new year to everyone. We're 25 years removed from Y2K. The world is still here.

Shockingly. I'm thankful for that. In the news, Justin Trudeau has sort of kind of not really resigned in Canada. He's told us he will. Of course, that could be 10 years from now. Who knows?

But on a more national scale, international scale, on a more important scale,

a much greater interest to me is the fact that in 2025 I'm going to be a grandpa again.

Much more important.

So we're expecting our fourth grandbaby in the midsummer.

So that's much more exciting even than Trudeau resigning.

100%. Yeah, I know I'm looking forward to that more for sure.

But yeah, we're looking forward to a good year.

There's a lot of other topics we could discuss in this book, but some of them are probably a little bit more detailed and specific to the

Holland context 125 years ago.

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