181: Ariana Kukors Smith: A Conversation Around Transgender Athletes

Road Trippin’ Show

Rain Delay

Sports, Basketball

4.7 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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On this edition of Road Trippin', the crew welcomes Ariana Kukors Smith to the show. A former world record holder in the 200-meter individual medley, Ariana is one of the most accomplished female swimmers in the world. She tells you what it's like for her to root for transgender swimmers (including now NCAA Champion Lia Thomas) while at the same time feeling a deep empathy for those women who are now losing to trans athletes.We have the tough conversation about what can/should be done at a legislative level, if the NCAA will choose to be proactive in setting boundaries, the mental health aspect of women losing to transgender athletes...and also why we need to support trans athletes in following their dreams.Have a question or topic for our next show? Text or leave us a VM at 657-522-5578 (6575-CALLRT)Cheers!👩‍💻 Go to https://athleticgreens.com/en➡ Promo Code: ROADTRIPPIN⏰ Chapters ⏰(00:00) "I Don't Think That We Have Enough Information Yet, To Allow Her To Compete Against Biological Females."(00:30) INTRO(01:13) Welcome Ariana Kukors Smith(02:59) Testing Channing's Swimming Knowledge(06:05) Discovering Yourself After Retirement(12:38) Harder: Winning A Gold Medal...Or Being A Mom?(13:45) Digesting The Debate Over Lia Thomas Winning As A Trans Swimmer(18:23) RJ On Why This Is A Huge Moment In Sports(21:23) How Differing Laws Across States Impact Trans Athletes(25:38) Differentiating Between "Men's" & "Women's" Sports(28:05) Mental Health Of Women Losing To Trans Athletes(34:09) Channing's Three Daughters And Teaching Them To Compete(38:18) Wanting To Compete vs Wanting To Be Yourself(39:45) Ariana's Competition And Dealing With Failure(45:58) Raw Emotions And Negativity After Lia Won(48:20) NCAA Setting Competitive Boundaries For The Future(49:50) Why The Situation Is So Overwhelming For Many(52:15) OUTRO► YouTube! 💻 https://www.youtube.com/roadtrippin► iTunes 🔊 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/road-trippin/id1195897108?mt=2► Spotify 🔊 https://open.spotify.com/show/4Q4qqC6UxoTB09ePc14AbB?si=4a514bea430b4b8b🍷 FOLLOW ROAD TRIPPIN' 🍷► Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/roadtrippin/► Twitter | https://twitter.com/roadtrippinpod🍷 FOLLOW ALLIE CLIFTON 🍷► Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/al.clifton/?hl=en► Twitter | https://twitter.com/RealAClifton🍷 FOLLOW RICHARD JEFFERSON 🍷► Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/richardajefferson/?hl=en► Twitter | https://twitter.com/Rjeff24🍷 FOLLOW CHANNING FRYE 🍷► Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/channingfrye/► Twitter | https://twitter.com/channingfrye#RoadTrippin'Podcast #BlueWireLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:07.1	I recognize Leah however she wants to be recognized and and Elias is a female.
1:12.6	I think that as far as the information that I have and as far as the emotion that I have based
1:20.5	on a female swimmer, a biological female swimmer, I think that she should be allowed to wear
1:28.1	dress, act, say however she wants but as a biological male, I don't think that we have enough
1:33.3	information yet to allow her to compete against biological females.
1:46.0	Welcome into this edition of Road Trip in with RJ and Chaining. I'm your host,
1:48.8	Ali Clifton and our guest today, Super Stoped. She's a two time gold medalist. She is a world
1:56.2	record holder, say that nine times fast. She's just an overall wonderful human being. She's a
2:02.4	friend of the show, Ariana Cucors Smith joins us. Hi, how are you? Hi guys, this is fun.
2:14.1	As you mentioned, you said that people would know you in the swim world as Ariana Cucors.
2:19.2	I want to know if Channing knows what you are a gold medalist in in terms of events and what
2:26.7	world record she held. Because Channing, we ran at one time in a pool. You and I did.
2:34.6	You guys did? We did. Yeah, I smoked, Ali. I grew up in Arizona. Yeah, free style and butterfly.
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