But it was sort of this idea that like we do have a hand in the energy within our womb and thinking,

is my baby only still inside me because I'm so terrified of what's on the outside?

I was also very attached to it looking one way.

I will speak for myself and say, I think that there was definitely some ego in here.

And now that I'm like aware of my recovery self-talking, I definitely wanted to be able to say,

I had an unmedicated birth. I did it. I was 34. I hadn't turned 35 yet, but I was already being,

I felt treated like geriatric pregnancy. There were, there was just no support for me to continue past 39 weeks. They wanted to induce me at that point. How old were you? 34. Did you just say geriatric pregnancy? They were treating her that way. Why? It was 30, because she was almost 35. I cannot, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't handle these conversations.

I just can't.

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypniburthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and

postpartum support specialist.

And I'm Tresha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the down-to-birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

My name is Melissa Pinell, and I am so happy to be with you. I love the show, and it's been

really pivotal on my own journey. I live in Northern California, which will actually come into play during my story because

of an aspect, how that affected my birth.

I have two daughters, Tilly, who just turned three last weekend.

And then Mira, she just turned one in April.

Yeah.

And I already found myself forgetting my daughter's name. So

hopefully this goes okay. So I would I would love to share my birth story. And part of why I reached out is,

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