I had three railroads, two seaports, 88,000 miles of highway, 22 ferries, 72 airports, and, you know, it's a. Go. Welcome to Citizen.

We have a special guest today, General Anthony T Tata although you go by Tony

Tata now I like the alliteration of Tony a little bit better to be honest kind of

flows better how you doing I'm doing great dad thanks it been a while. When was the last time you were here?

I was on a book tour with Total Empire and I'm on a book tour with Phalanx. It was in February last year I think some like that. Yeah.

What have you been up to?

Write in another book and got business all over the world, Middle East, domestically, UK, sit on a bunch of boards, and really doing a lot of traveling.

Just finished the West Coast part of the book tour.

I'm a surfer and so I make sure I do book signings along the coast, San Diego,

surf La Jolla, surf Salt Creek, surf San Clementi, T Street, and then I was back in Palm Beach where I live and surf for two or three days back home because it was great waves for a few days.

Well how did you get into surfing?

I grew up Virginia Beach.

Yeah, a lot of surfing at Bob Beach.

Yeah, my first tactical assignment in the military was Hawaii and I, you know, the usual routine was go surf, play golf in the morning, surf in the afternoon on the weekend, so every Saturday.

And so I had a good group of lieutenant buddies I ran with and that's what we did and you know some some knew it or surf some didn't but everybody was trying it and and it was a lot of fun.

Well let's go back farther than that.

So you grew up in Norfolk, right?

Norfolk, I was born in Norfolk, grew up in Virginia Beach.

Parents were school teachers, dad, high school football coach.

Alder brother went to Naval Academy, younger sister was a national champion,

Miller running 442, went to Virginia, I went to West Point, played some baseball,

Russell.

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