$180K Bitcoin In 2025? Here’s the Case | Chris Klein

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.8 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Chris Klein is the Co-Founder & CEO of Bitcoin IRA. In this conversation, we discuss how retirement investing is changing in the digital era, what people are actually doing inside their retirement accounts, and how the wealthy use these tools to grow their wealth faster. We also dive into broader topics like patriotism in America, macro trends, and the roles of gold, silver, stocks, and bitcoin in today’s economy.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
1:51 - Benefit of bitcoin in retirement accounts
3:52 - Can bitcoin get to $180,000 by end of 2025?
8:43 - Government shutdown and market impact
12:37 - Financial literacy and retirement gap
15:36 - Crypto staking in IRAs and what customers are investing in
19:21 - How tokenization will impact IRAs and rise of retail
22:20 - What are “Forgotten 401ks?”
26:15 - Gold vs Bitcoin debate
29:35 - Patriotism and division in America
33:53 - Bitcoin as common ground
37:20 - Bitcoin IRA promos

Transcript

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0:00.0	What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Many of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp
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0:43.4	specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as
0:48.5	an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.
0:54.0	There's this retail fomo that happens,
0:56.3	and there's a price point where it hits. I thought we were going to see it last week when we touched
1:00.1	125, 126, when we broke new all-time highs. I think you get into that one, it's a psychological
1:05.0	130, 135, and all of a sudden, you're off to the races to 150. And then from there,
1:10.7	that's what the cycles do over time. And never forget, having happened and the impact of stuff, I think we will start seeing some supply constraint for sure by the end of the year. What's going on, guys? Today we get a great episode with Chris Klein. He's the co-founder and C.O. of Bitcoin IRA. In this conversation, we talk about what is going on in retirement accounts,
1:28.5	why you should have one. But then we get into some pretty interesting conversations. What are people
1:32.8	doing in these retirement accounts? What are rich people doing to get richer that you can copy?
1:37.3	On top of that, we start talking about things like his patriotism still alive in America.
1:41.3	What should you be thinking about macro events, gold, silver, Bitcoin stocks? We got it all covered. Chris is here. Lots of insights. I think guys will really enjoy it. Here's my latest conversation with Chris Klein. All right, I thought a great place to start the conversation is Bitcoin in people's retirement accounts. That used to be very controversial, very kind of contrarian. Now it's becoming much more popular. You guys are a big part of that. But also, I think the government now is becoming much more open
2:04.2	to what can you put in your 401K? What can you put in your retirement account?
2:07.3	The average American, I think it's very much saying to themselves, wait a second,
2:10.7	I want exposure to alternative assets. I want exposure to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
2:15.1	I shouldn't be precluded because the government is being
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