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Hello, Gavin.

Hey, pleasure to meet you in person, in the flesh.

You too.

We obviously have a lot of friends in common and I'm glad to be here.

I'm glad to have you here.

And I'm glad to talk about, we have a lot of shared interests but

this survival signals that protect us from violence now this is I've always

wanted to talk to you because you are truly an expert on preparedness and cautionary tactics and what to do and and not to do like in terms of security and how to protect people and how did what is your background like how did you get started in all this bad childhood

violent childhood is the way I started.

When I was 10 years old, my mother shot my stepfather in front of me.

Oh Jesus Christ.

And that was one of many sort of gun incidents in our family and so I was your

stepfather violent or something no he wasn't my mother was and how that's unusual

right it is it's the it is the more unusual of the two you know the two genders

Certainly men are more violent more often throughout history

So I had that experience but and a whole bunch of others. My mother was a heroin addict. She committed

suicide when I was 16 and so I saw a lot of stuff. I saw a lot of criminality I saw

a lot of violence, I saw a lot of violence, and I guess I developed kind of like an

ambassador between the two worlds.

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