Oh, I'm your host, Ms. Kevin Vonstage, and I'm joined by my husband and co-host.

The Kevin Vonstage.

And this is the LaVara podcast where we talk about life love and the pursuit of happiness,

and we are not relationship experts or even relationship goals for that matter.

We're just two people living life trying to figure it out.

We do not always get it quarter-eaked, but every day we do strive to get it right.

And before we get started, we want to do, I don't know if I should even call it like this

week in the Frederick's household.

Okay, over the last couple weeks and I was unable to say this last week, we had a guess.

We did have a guess.

So I want to make sure that I say it this week that, oh man, I don't know why I got

emotional a little bit and I didn't want to be.

But our friend, Tony Baker, his son or tragically was killed in a car accident.

And this has literally been one of the toughest two weeks of my life.

And it has in my life as well.

And it is not unexpected.

Honestly, I am surprised how much pain I feel.

I was really surprised.

I know how much I love Tony and the love and its serene and sincere, but the pain that

I feel on Tony's behalf and sincere and Sabrina and their mom, it is intense.

It is intense pain.

Obviously, to Kevin's point, we were just talking about this actually before we went

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