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The Road to Now

#180 The Transformation of American Policing w/ Stuart Schrader

The Road to Now

Benjamin Sawyer

Society & Culture, History

4.8628 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2020

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

The confrontations between demonstrators and police that have taken place in the last few months have resulted in a national debate about law enforcement. The expanded use of Federal officers in American cities and the use of unmarked vehicles to detain citizens are concerning recent developments, but some scholars have pointed out that these tactics bear striking similarities to the strategies pursued by the US abroad. In this episode, Ben & guest co-host Alex Galarza speak w/ Johns Hopkins' Stuart Schrader about the ways that US counterinsurgency abroad came to transform American policing from the 20th century to today.

Dr. Stuart Schrader is Lecturer/Assistant Research Scientist in Sociology and the Associate Director of the Program in Racism, Immigration, and Citizenship at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author of Badges Without Borders: How Global Counterinsurgency Transformed American Policing (University of California Press, 2019) and has contributed to several major media outlets, including The Washington Post, The Nation & American Quarterly. You can follow him on twitter at @stschrader1.

This week's guest co-host Alex Galarza is Digital Scholarship Librarian at the University of Delaware. He is a specialist on Latin American history with a focus on the history of sport. Alex also appeared in RTN #99 The History & Politics of the World Cup w/ Alex Galarza & Matt Negrin. You can follow Alex on twitter at @galarzaalex.

This episode was edited by Aaron Weber.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Ben Sawyer and this is the road to now.

0:08.9

And before we get into this episode with Stuart Schrader, just wanted to say that we've been having a blast recording these episodes with live audiences via Zoom webinar.

0:20.1

And just wanted to let you all know that we have a couple scheduled

0:22.8

September 20th at 9 p.m. Eastern. Bob and I are going to be having our summer recap slash Q&A

0:30.5

episode. We've been doing a lot of interviews with great guests. And now it's time for us to

0:37.4

sit back and just talk about what's

0:39.5

been going on the last, I don't know, six months. We've both been busy. And I think we're both

0:45.6

excited to be able to sit down and actually create some space to just have a good conversation.

0:49.8

One of the great books that I've been reading this summer that I will almost certainly bring up

0:53.8

is The Cabinet by Dr. Lindsay Trevensky.

0:57.1

It's a book about Washington's cabinet.

0:59.2

Amazing. I'm learning so much from it.

1:01.1

And here's how we roll into the next scheduled episode.

1:04.9

Sunday, October 4th at 9 p.m. Eastern.

1:08.0

Lindsay Trevensky herself will be on our podcast talking about her book about

1:12.6

the president's cabinets. So we've got those two great ones coming up, the Q&A slash summer

1:17.2

recap, September 20th. Lindsay Trevinsky is our guest on October 4th. And if you would like to join

1:22.7

us in the room for those episodes, we would like to have you. We have it open now for our patrons on

1:29.6

Patreon. If you jump over there, patreon.com slash the road to now. You'll find out how you can join us.

1:35.8

There's a lot of content there, extras. Shout out to all the patrons who have been at these

1:39.5

episodes. It feels like we're doing something with other people with the recordings. So

1:44.0

thank you guys for being there. We hope to see more of you there. And we've got a couple new ones that we're lining up right now. So pretty soon we should have all the way through November. And we've got some pretty exciting ones. For a long time, listeners, you will definitely appreciate if one of these comes together. I'll leave that right there and you'll know what I'm talking about

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