The following is a conversation with Jeremy Surrey, a historian at UT Austin whose research

interests and writing are on modern American history with a knife towards presidents and

in general individuals who wielded power.

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As a side note, let me say that in these conversations, for better or worse, I seek understanding,

not activism.

I'm not left, no right.

I love ideas, not labels.

And most fascinating ideas are full of uncertainty, tension, and trade-offs.

Labels destroy that.

I try ideas out, let them breathe for a time, try to challenge, explore, and analyze.

But mostly I trust the intelligence of you, the listener, to think and to make up your

own mind, together with me.

I will try to have economists and philosophers on from all points on the multidimensional

political spectrum, including the extremes.

I will try to both have an open mind and to ask difficult questions when needed.

I'll make mistakes.

Don't shoot this robot at the first sign of failure.

I'm still under development.

Pre-release version 0.1.

As usual, I'll do a few minutes of As Now, no ads in the middle, as a listener, I hate

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