18/11/2025
Today in Parliament
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🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Helen Catt reports from Westminster as MPs are warned about a group of Chinese spies thought to be operating in and around Parliament.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:06.1 | Order. Order. |
| 0:08.6 | Hello, I'm Helen Katz, and this is today in Parliament for BBC Radio 4 for Tuesday the 18th of November, |
| 0:16.1 | where the security minister tells MPs that the government will deal robustly with Chinese spies who |
| 0:21.9 | could be hunting for even the tiniest bits of information about them. |
| 0:25.3 | China has a low threshold for what information is considered to be of value and will gather |
| 0:31.8 | individual pieces of information to build a wider picture. |
| 0:36.2 | But a Conservative thinks ministers aren't in any position to negotiate. |
| 0:40.5 | You can't reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth. |
| 0:45.5 | Also in this programme, moving on from the troubles, MPs reflect on the impact of conflict. |
| 0:51.6 | While legacy remains unresolved, it is like a fog around us in Northern Ireland, shaping the tone of our politics. |
| 0:59.3 | And opposition MPs blamed the government for the closure of a chemicals plant in Fife. |
| 1:05.0 | MPs and peers opened their inboxes this morning to find a warning from the security services |
| 1:10.3 | that they were at significant |
| 1:11.8 | risk of being targeted by Chinese spies. The espionage alert was issued by MI5 and had been |
| 1:18.7 | circulated by the speakers of both houses of Parliament. It said that the Chinese Ministry of State |
| 1:24.4 | Security was actively reaching out to individuals in and around Westminster. |
| 1:30.0 | The message also named two accounts on the business networking site LinkedIn that the security |
| 1:35.0 | services said were being used as cover identities for Chinese agents. Beijing dismissed the |
| 1:40.5 | allegations as pure fabrication and said they were a self-staged charade. |
| 1:45.6 | But the security minister Dan Jarvis told the Commons that China was trying to recruit and |
| 1:50.5 | cultivate people who had access to sensitive information about Parliament and the government. |
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