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So what's up man? How are you?

Thanks for having me job. My pleasure to be here.

It's always interesting to meet somebody that you only know from their tweets.

You know, I only know you from your tweets which I found very interesting and then I started reading your book or listening to your book where another person reads it and I've seen some interviews of you so I thought it'd be fun to have you in there.

Cool. Have a little chit chat.

Great, thanks for having me, Joe.

My pleasure.

So you just got back from Ukraine?

I know.

I'm totally throwing a wrench in the agenda.

No, we're supposed to talk about cancellation or whatever.

But yeah, I, for a bunch of reasons, I just up and went to Poland and Ukraine to see what was going on there.

So this was just your own idea to just take a trip?

Not totally. One of the gigs I have, I have a gig at a DC think tank and one of my colleagues

who's done like real in the field correspondent work before proposed a trip and a bunch of people

expressed interest and I'm basically the only one who didn't wimp out and

Went with them. So it's just you and this one guy and we had you know drivers and fixers and stuff because I don't speak any Slavic languages and you basically need it to sort of navigate

that world.

And also in a wartime economy, regular transport doesn't work.

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