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Mormon Stories Podcast

1792: Deconstructing Mormon God - Celeste Davis Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2023

⏱️ 177 minutes

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Summary

Join John and Margi as they interview spiritual director, Celeste Davis. Celeste was born and raised in the church, went to BYU, served a mission in Slovenia, and married in the temple. For many years Celeste wrote for the Church’s official blog and, as of today, those articles can still be found there. During the church’s involvement with Prop 8 and the 2015 Exclusion Policy, Celeste’s husband began to lose hope in the church. Celeste grappled with the burden of holding her family in Mormonism but began to question even God himself. Who is God and how can we have a relationship with him?

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. I am your host

0:03.8

for today, John Delin. It is June 23rd, 2023. And today we are covering the topic of sort

0:12.9

of losing God within a Mormon context. And I'm going to say put God in quotes. And then

0:18.7

maybe also rediscovering spirituality after organized religion or after Mormonism. That's

0:25.8

going to be kind of some of the broad themes today. Along with the idea of kind of self-empowerment,

0:32.1

self-knowledge, self-trust. And we are so excited to have with us in studio today Celeste M.

0:39.1

Davis. Hey Celeste. Hi. Welcome. Thanks. And of course I'm joined by my partner in truth

0:46.2

in righteousness. Margie Delin. Hey Margie. Hey there. Thanks for joining us. Yes. I'm excited.

0:51.9

So Celeste, I first discovered you on Instagram because you back in the day and you probably still

0:57.6

do, you were releasing just cool short little videos. And I think when I first saw your videos,

1:05.4

I think you were kind of doing the progressive Mormon thing. Yeah. And I don't know we'll talk

1:10.5

about your social media stuff in a bit. But you've advanced to the point where you now sort of

1:16.6

have a new profession as what you call a spiritual director. And it's at Celeste M. Davis,

1:23.5

both on Instagram, on your website, CelesteM. Davis.com. And you have a sub-stuck as well.

1:30.0

But anyway, I'm so excited to have you here. I've been following you for a while. I think you

1:36.6

are a great writer and a great thinker. And you have a lot of cool stuff to share with us about

1:42.2

losing God's slash spirituality and then reconstructing it out of a Mormon slash organized

1:48.8

religious context. Thanks so much. Yeah. Thank you. I think we're going to do it in two parts. Part one

1:54.2

is going to be about the deconstruction. And then we'll do part two, which is about the reconstruction.

1:59.5

Anything you want to say as by way of introduction or clarification before we jump into your story.

2:05.4

No, I think that sounded good. Happy to dive in. Okay. All right. So you identified these two themes

2:13.0

about who is what is God, what is spirituality and self-trust. So with that is the lens to

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