179: Unabridged Interview: Christian Wiman

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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This is our unabridged interview with Christian Wiman. “Suffering, I think, catalyzes an intimacy that couldn't happen otherwise.” Christian Wiman, renowned poet and teacher at Yale Divinity School, does not say these words flippantly. Two decades ago, he was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and given a life expectancy of five years. He has lived the past twenty years in the shadow of death and the grip of despair. In this episode, while discussing his recent memoir “Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair,” Christian explores faith, doubt, joy, and sorrow in the way only a great poet can, taking the stuff of life - the mundane, confusing, chaotic, and tragic - and making meaning out of it. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Zero at the Bone" by Christian Wiman "My Bright Abyss" by Christian Wiman Similar NSE episodes: Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days Angela Williams Gorrell and Miroslav Volf: On Joy and Sorrow Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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