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179 | Thanksgiving Special: Jeremy Dauber on the History of Comics, Debates Over Diversity/Representation, and the State of Comedy

The Realignment

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Happy Thanksgiving Realignment listeners! From now on, whenever we release on holidays, we’re going to release (probably) non-political content that captures the holiday’s spirit and Marshall and Saagar’s interests. High on our priority list today/this weekend is catching up on all the different movies/shows we’ve missed this and last year, many of which are comic book-themed. In that spirit, today’s guest, Jeremy Dauber, professor of Jewish Literature and American Studies at Columbia University and author of American Comics: A History and Jewish Comedy: A Serious History, joins The Realignment to discuss the past, present, and future of American comics, why we’re stuck in a sequel/reboot spiral, and how culture war debates over diversity and representation are playing out in the pages of major comics.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Marshall and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

0:08.4

What came to me was, you know, you are now a Hollywood producer, right, of a certain age.

0:15.9

You know, and you say, what do I want to do? Well, you go back to your golden age of being 12

0:20.9

with the team. You say, this was something I cared about. I wish I could be part of the excitement

0:27.2

of baking this thing that I love and that I care about. And so I am going to use now the position

0:33.3

that I've been to bring that thing that I love and I care about to the big screener to the

0:38.3

small screen now. You know, and I think that that, you know, for these sort of biggest and sort of

0:44.8

loudest megaphone that in the movies and the TV that you've been talking about. I think that happens

0:50.0

a lot. So I think, you know, when you're seeing now the adaptation of a lot of the things that I

0:55.4

loved when I was, I would say high school sort of put that into college, a little post college,

1:01.0

those 90s vertigo comics, Sandman preacher, things like that. You know, I'm the age of a lot of

1:07.5

the people now who are saying, hey, this is, of course, I would want to be able to make a why the last

1:12.7

man's experience. Who wouldn't want to see those comics that I loved when I was a kid on this screen?

1:17.7

Hello everybody. Happy Thanksgiving. It's that time of year, which we love very much here at the

1:28.8

realignment. And what we usually do is we do a special episode. So that's what we decided to do

1:33.2

today. Marshall is a big comic book fan and actually found a great guest with a great book. So

1:37.9

Marshall, what are we talking about today? Yeah, this actually came from a comment on the

1:42.5

sub-stack. We like it when people respond and engage and do stuff like that. And this person said, hey,

1:47.6

like it's an interview show. I get it. But I'd love to hear more content that's about your personal

1:53.3

interest like what's going on. Not everything has to be political. So right around the same time,

1:58.0

a publicist reached out to talk about American comics, a history. This is with Columbia professor

2:05.2

Jeremy Dalbert. And this is just a really interesting conversation. It's Thanksgiving, obviously,

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