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The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

179 Module 6 Opening Statements and LABC

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

BBC

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4.8627 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week the Inquiry turned its attention to how building regulations were set and combustible materials tested and certified. Lawyers for the bereaved, survivors, and residents accused the government of concealing crucial information from previous fires, and industry bodies of knowingly approving unsafe building materials. Barry Turner, the former Director of Technical Policy at the Local Authority Building Control (LABC), agreed that his organisation’s close relationship with insulation manufacturer, Kingspan, affected their response when questions were raised about the fire performance of Kingspan’s K15 insulation.

Presenter: Kate Lamble Producers: Sharon Hemans, Nathan Gower Researcher: Ben Henderson Studio Mix: Gareth Jones Editor: Hugh Levinson

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me, Kate Lamble.

0:09.6

It's been a significant week for the inquiry as it started a new section of evidence,

0:14.6

finally turning its attention to how the building regulations were set

0:18.2

and combustible materials tested and certified.

0:21.6

And that includes the role of central government.

0:24.8

In the opening statements, no one was pulling any punches.

0:28.1

They were fobbed off time and again with the same, and I'm sorry to say, lies.

0:34.8

We submit this is symptomatic of a corrupt culture in the testing and certification industry.

0:41.5

This inquiry is not a game of cat and mouse. The department greatly regrets that it took the Grenfell Tower

0:48.6

tragedy to lay bare this missed place and abused trust. It's ridiculing, humiliating health and safety

0:57.1

and relegating citizens, as it were, too, effectively, a bombfire.

1:03.6

The result is a prolonged period of concealment by government,

1:08.8

which should properly be regarded as one of the major scandals of our time.

1:13.9

Let's go through these opening statements then.

1:16.3

Stephanie Barwise represents one group of bereaved survivors and residents.

1:19.9

The Grenfell disaster is a predictable yet unintended consequence of the combination of the

1:27.0

laudable desire to reduce carbon emissions,

1:29.9

coupled with an unbridled passion for deregulation,

1:33.6

in particular a desire to deregulate and boost the housing construction industry.

1:39.3

Government, she said, not only wanted to foster the construction industry but became dependent on it.

1:45.1

This allowed companies to freely exploit the regulations.

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