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The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

179: James Arthur Smith - Is Regenerative Aquaculture the Future of Seafood?

The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

Dr. Anthony Gustin

Regenerativefarming, Regenerative, Lowcarb, Nutrition, Fitness, Holisticnutrition, Ketogenic, Keto, Meat, Intermittentfasting, Health, Healing, Ketosis, Weightloss, Carnivore, Ketogenicdiet, Hormones, Health & Fitness, Sauna

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

James Arthur Smith is the founder and CEO of Seatopia. His carbon-neutral, certified mercury-safe seafood subscription box relies on seafood farmers who practice regenerative aquaculture.

Not familiar with the term?

It’s like regenerative agriculture, but in the water instead of on land.

James explains the nuances of aquaculture farming to Dr. Anthony Gustin. He discusses how it increases biodiversity, restores ecosystems, and produces healthier fish for us.

They talk about seafood provenance and why farm-raised vs. wild-caught isn’t the right question to ask (and highlight which questions you *should* be asking about your seafood).

There’s so much misinformation in our seafood supply chain that it’s easy to feel confused and stop eating fish altogether like Dr. Gustin did.

But just like regenerative agriculture is changing the way we farm, regenerative aquaculture is becoming the future of mercury-safe, antibiotic-free, sustainable seafood farming you can feel good about.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • How Shamu and a steelhead trout breeding and hatchery program ignited James’ passion for regenerative aquaculture

  • When farm-raised is better than wild-caught fish

  • The dark side of commercial and line-caught fishing

  • How microplastics and heavy metals like mercury get into our water systems and move up the sealife food chain

  • What sushi-grade fish means and why sushi chefs don’t work with fresh, wild-caught fish

  • How the carbon footprints of farm-raised vs. wild-caught fish compare

  • Best practices for freezing, storing, and using frozen fish

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Natural State podcast. I am your host Dr. Anthony Guston. It is

0:10.2

my belief that the natural state of penny living organisms' health and that our artificial

0:14.5

habitat has forced us into having artificial health problems. This show is my attempt to

0:18.7

dive deep and learn about using nutrition, sleep, movement, relationships and more to help

0:23.8

you reclaim your natural state of health in a modern world and show you how to thrive

0:27.8

in an environment that stacked against you. If you enjoyed today's show, you can find

0:31.3

out more details and information at Dr. Anthony Guston.com. Today I welcome on the podcast

0:37.2

James Arthur Smith, who is the CEO and founder of Cetopia, which is the most unbelievable

0:44.6

seafood company that I've ever heard of. I did not know that this was possible before

0:50.5

Cetopia was brought to my attention by a friend, but as much as we know about regenerative

0:55.5

agriculture on land, you have animals, you move them around, you do species appropriate.

1:00.3

Grazing, it restores the ecosystem, makes the world a better place, creates the most nutritious

1:05.3

food for humans as well as best for the animals and then you can restore ecosystems that way.

1:10.3

Sounds great, right? Turns out you can also do that in the sea. So there's a thing called

1:14.7

regenerative aquaculture in which you intentionally choose certain species and integrate them and

1:21.6

move them around and feed them certain things to be able to restore ocean ecosystems and

1:27.6

be able to provide the healthiest fish possible as well as the best conditions for those fish.

1:34.2

The seafood industry has really convinced us that no amount of farming for seafood is good.

1:41.4

This is like a hunter's association, being able to convince everybody at the United States

1:45.8

that you can only get wild game and there's no such thing as healthy farm food. While the

1:50.6

majority of farm food on land is atrocious, chicken, commercial pork, commercial beef production,

1:58.4

all of them are brutal. This doesn't mean that there's no good way to do it. And I never even thought

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