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178: The Silk Roads: A Decade On - Peter Frankopan, Professor of Global History at Oxford, on the Changing World Order

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Business, Investing, Management, News, Business News

4.8216 Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Peter Frankopan is a Professor of Global History at Oxford, and author of The Silk Roads.

His work has been both profound and enduring, with the book being translated into more than 45 languages and selling nearly 3 million copies worldwide. The updated version has just been published.  

In this conversation, Peter reflects on the potent forces at work both within and outside of Asia.

He assesses the changing world order and discusses if the complexity of interplays which may appear uncomfortable to us, are actually less violent and dramatic when viewed through a historic lens. 

From China to Iran, India to the Baltics, this globe-trotting conversation discusses, hot-spots, malevolent actors, animosities, frictions and fallacies.

They also shine a light on his favourite cocktail and top sporting event!

The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by  Schroders, IFM Investors, World Gold Council and LSEG

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the MoneyMays podcast.

0:04.8

If this is your first time joining us, I'm the host, Simon Brewer.

0:08.5

And in this show, we talk to proving leaders and thinkers from the worlds of business, investing from beyond.

0:14.4

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0:17.2

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and we're active on all major social media platforms thank Thank you for listening. So if you're watching on

0:39.3

YouTube or listening to this podcast, it's a little bit different in that we recorded Peter

0:44.1

Frankapan, the author of The Silk Roads, a few weeks back, and he's been reflecting on the Silk Road's

0:49.7

10 years on. And then in the interim period, we had the dual attack on Iran, and so we asked Peter

0:56.3

to come back and just to give us a top-up. But if you stay with the episode, which we hope you will,

1:01.0

there's a short update of Peter's thinking, as we all try and process the implications of this

1:06.9

and whether there are conclusions being reached that in several months may turn out to be

1:12.4

hopelessly optimistic or unrealistically pessimistic. So I hope you enjoy the great Peter Francoban.

1:19.1

As we move into an era where the political, military and economic dominance of the West is

1:23.7

coming under pressure, the sense of uncertainty is unsettling. And while we ponder where the next

1:29.0

threat may come from, the network and connections are quietly being knitted together across the spine

1:34.5

of Asia, or rather they are being restored. The Silk Roads are rising again. Those are the closing

1:40.7

lines of the majestic opus that is the Silk Roads. The author, Peter Frankaband of Oxford University,

1:46.3

created a profound and enduring book that has been devoured around the world,

1:51.1

and with it has made its own mark in history.

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