There are hospitals where there are official policy and there are doctors working at the national level in the United States who have told every hospital to file a complaint on every home birth midwife that makes a transfer.

And there are hospitals that do that.

We know that the healthiest birth for the mother and baby is one that happens on pure physiology, that they get the best benefits,

both mother and baby short and long term. And so all these women want is a chance for a healthy

birth. But the options available to them are not allowing them that. And so the only way that

they can access that chance is to leave the hospital and sometimes to give birth

alone with nobody. And the system has failed when women are in that position.

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypniburthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and postpartum

support specialist. And I'm Trescia Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the Down to Birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

Welcome everyone to another episode with attorney Hermine Hayes Klein.

Hermann, thanks so much for coming back on the podcast again and again.

We always get a really big response every time we do an episode with you because you bring

into light so many aspects of maternity care that I just think isn't on the radar of most of us.

You have insight that a lot of us don't have. So thank you so much for always

making the time for us. It's my great pleasure, Cynthia and Trisha. Thank you so much for doing this

show and for welcoming me back to it. I can't tell you how much we learn every time we speak with you.

We get off the call and we're like, wow. Yes. Yes. So today what we decided is we're due to cover is just starting off a little bit

educationally and then getting into some of the legal aspects down the road.

But basically in looking at this global issue of limited access to good quality maternity

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