So what I was doing was I was really deeply involved in the Bukti Center.

I was senior educator.

Over the years, I was involved a lot in creating the programming, creating, I kind of became the de facto creative department, you know, doing the website and the graphic arts and all that kind of stuff.

I had my hands in so much there.

But it does kind of show you how if you, in the little way that I've tried to give my life to

Krishna's service, Krishna really takes care of you.

And what seems like, you know,

I really had my heart and my mind kind of like,

I saw myself just,

this is my life,

Bakti Center, I'll die,

you know, serving the Bukti Center like this.

And then,

and that started to slip away,

Krishna had another plan. You know,

I had no idea that we would do a podcast. I had no idea that, um, it would get a, you know,

Krishna's hand would play it in such a way where really over, in a very short time, I was, it was doing more than a center.

The puck.

It was reaching more people than most centers reach and so on, you know.

And all, and Raghannath and I, we love each other.

And although we're very different in certain ways, we also work well together.

People are different.

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