we're all searching for happiness.

We're all searching for bliss.

And we're searching for some kind of shelter or some kind of,

something that sustains us and nourishes us and satisfies us.

And so, you know, as long as we're free, we're striving incessantly to find that.

And the, you know, it's interesting that you talk about Shelter because even if you look at,

let's say like yours and say like Parmenunda's kind of, who's been a member of both your

bands, kind of like the progression, you know, when you get. who's been a member of both your bands.

Kind of like the progression, you know,

when you get to Babu time, it reveals that here's the progression that things go through.

They go from, let's say, karma to Ghana to Bhakti.

Like, what is Utha today and what is straight edge? It's Ghanic, right? It's like a refusal. Ghanic means it's negating everything. And so we don't do this, we don't do that. Actually, that was like the minor threats. I don't. I don't do this. I don't do that. I don't do that.

At least I don't do this.

Or,

yeah,

actually it's kind of like, yeah. You know, I don't smoke, don't drink. What do you do? You know? In other words, your whole, the whole movement was about what we don't do. and it was and that was good

it was like those are things

that were good not to do

you know and that's what

Guiana is it's like

we do. And it was, and that was good. It was like, those are things that were good not to do, you know. And that's what Guiana is. It's like we, we will not try to enjoy the things of this world. We realize the folly in that, right? So, so we don't do this. But Bhakti is the positive of alternative. And that's what Shelter was, right? Shelter wasn't just saying,

don't do this, don't do that. We don't do this. We don't do that. It was like what we do,

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