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Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast

#176: The Zion Narrows Revisited

Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast

Matt and Karen Smith

Science, Personal Journals, Nature, Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The Narrows in Zion National Park is one of the most iconic hikes in the American West. We recently returned to the park to hike the Narrows for the third time, and it’s been a while since we last talked about it on this podcast. Our first Narrows episode was episode 6, six years ago, so we figured it was time for an update. If you would like information about other activities in the park, check out the Substack article we published recently: Our 10 Favorite Things to Do in Zion National Park The Narrows is a section of Zion Canyon where the Virgin River carves its way through walls that rise over a thousand feet and push in on each other, sometimes as close as thirty feet apart. There's little trail in the traditional sense. The river is the trail for about sixty percent of the hike, which makes it one of the most unique walks anywhere. In this episode, we talk through the bottom-up route that starts at the end of the Riverside Walk at the far north end of the canyon’s scenic road. It’s a ten-mile round trip that needs no permit and no GPS; there’s really no way to get lost on this hike. We share how long it took us, how deep the water got, and what it was like returning fourteen years after our first visit. We also discuss how much Zion has changed. Visitation has nearly doubled since 2010. We describe our experience catching the very first shuttle going up canyon at 7:00am on the day of our hike and the size of the crowds waiting in line with us. And because preparation makes or breaks this one, we cover what to wear, why neoprene socks were a game changer for us, the case for a hiking stick, and our honest take on whether to bring the kids. If you're planning to hike The Narrows, this episode is for you, with practical tips throughout to help you make the most of your day in the river. A couple more helpful links: Here you can find out the current conditions and flow rates for the North Fork of the Virgin River. And for more information about this hike, here is the park’s webpage about The Narrows. ----- We share our stories and ideas in a few different places. Here’s where you’ll find them: Patreon – Behind-the-scenes updates, bonus audio, and more personal storytelling Email newsletter on Substack – Travel tips, suggestions, and whatever we can think to write about each week. The Blog at www.mattandkarensmith.com – Adventure stories and firsthand experiences from the road Social Media – Everyday observations, humor, recommendations, and quick moments from our travels. Find us on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok The best way to contact us is at: mattandkarensmith@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And it's like the pins and needles. Yeah. Yeah. It's like somebody's stabbing your feet with a knife.

0:35.6

And I really like that because your only two choices are warm your feet back up and get past that pain point or go back in the water to the point where you can't feel your feet anymore.

0:52.3

Welcome to the Dear Bob and Sue podcast, stories from our journey to all the U.S.

1:00.3

National Parks and other public lands.

1:02.5

I'm Matt Smith.

1:03.5

And I'm Karen Smith.

1:04.7

We're the authors of the Dear Bob and Sue series of books.

1:07.7

Today, we're revisiting one of the most unique and most popular hikes in the country,

1:13.0

the Narrows, in Utah's Zion National Park. The Narrows is one of the most unforgettable

1:18.0

hikes we've ever done, and we recently hiked it for the third time. A slot canyon carved by

1:23.7

the Virgin River, the Narrows Trail is the river itself.

1:32.4

Yes, and we'll be talking about a lot of stuff today, like the best time to do this hike,

1:38.1

how to avoid the crowds, what you should bring with you, and some safety concerns for you and your kids.

1:41.8

Thanks for joining us today as we dive into the Narrows.

1:43.7

Oh, yeah, she don't want to talk.

1:44.5

No diving. No diving. Good morning.

1:53.5

And welcome.

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