176: ‘Frolic’ With Craig Hockenberry
The Talk Show With John Gruber
John Gruber
3.6 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2016
⏱️ 122 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Craig is good to hear your voice. |
| 0:02.7 | Yeah, likewise. |
| 0:03.7 | It's been a while since we talked. |
| 0:06.2 | Yeah. |
| 0:07.2 | You want to, it's just, it's just, it's just get it out of the way. |
| 0:14.2 | We got to talk about this Trump tech, tech summit. |
| 0:16.8 | Because here's the thing. |
| 0:18.4 | Oh man. |
| 0:19.4 | You know what? |
| 0:20.4 | This is one of those things. |
| 0:21.4 | I mean, you're going to lead off with this. |
| 0:22.4 | I would have, you know, started in my holiday party. |
| 0:25.1 | Here's the thing. |
| 0:28.9 | Even as I'm not really shying away from writing about politics on daring fireball, even if |
| 0:34.7 | I decided that if I had chosen differently and said, you know what, I'm not, you know, |
| 0:39.0 | whatever my feelings are, I'm going to make this a politics-free site, even, even in this. |
| 0:45.2 | Here's an intersection of Trump administration, incoming Trump administration and the stuff |
| 0:50.9 | that I do write about that, you know, it would be criminal not to mention it. |
| 0:55.4 | So what happened? |
| 0:56.4 | I don't know. |
| 0:57.4 | I had their head in the sand. |
| 0:58.4 | Trump and his buddy Peter Teal put together a summit of, they invited, they only invited |
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