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Welcome to The Restless Politics with me, Rory Stewart.

And me, Aleister Campbell. Good and Aleister, what are we on with this week?

We're going to have to talk about this wretched conservative party conference, which is

doing my head in. You want to have a chat about what the center right, the sort of moderate

mainstream conservative party does in the face of the nonsense and madness that's going on.

And then we want to talk about Kosovo, yet another huge story of international significance,

which is getting this to no debating space in the UK media. But I guess we should start with

the Tory party conference, because I've been not good for my mental health, but I've been

watching rather a loss of it. So very quickly on party conferences, I have been to ten of them.

And they let me just give you a little bit of a sense, because I think the public doesn't

always see this how bizarre they are. The conservatives alternate in my time between Birmingham

and Manchester. So they used to do these seaside towns like Blackpool. But now they do these

enormous conference centres in Birmingham and Manchester. And there are these very, very long

security cues to get in and out and these passes you have to wear, which means it's actually

pretty difficult to interact with the normal city around you. Every time you try to pop out for a

drink or if you're an MP with a relatively small salary, you're staying in a cheap hotel on the

other end of town. There's a huge line of cues to try to get in and out through these security

lines. You then get in. And in the middle of them, there are all these events happening. So there

are the main events, which used to be popular. I don't seem to be anymore, but used to fight to

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