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Mormon Stories Podcast

1757: Is the Mormon Church an Unhealthy Organization? w/ John Larsen

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2023

⏱️ 154 minutes

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Summary

Sometimes we find ourselves involved in organizations, governments and communities that might be psychologically unhealthy to us or our communities. John Larsen has collected a few points you can use to check to see if an organization might be considered dangerous or unhealthy.

  • There are elections with only one candidate up for each office.
  • All members are expected to vote in unison.
  • The term “beloved” is applied to a living leader by other leaders of the organization.
  • Loyal members calling for reform or change are purged or otherwise silenced.
  • There are no means for membership to appeal a decision.
  • The group is willing to break up families or other social structures to further or preserve its own organizations.
  • Members are encouraged to look and dress the same. Uniformity is encouraged or required in clothing, haircuts, jewelry, etc.
  • Life events are controlled by the organization. For example, you cannot marry without leadership approval.
  • There is an organizationally controlled media including television, radio and newspapers. All outside media is cast as suspect.
  • The organization is overly focused on winning over vulnerable populations such as the youth, those who are grieving, or those in financial distress.
  • The group is involved in many business or monetary transactions wholly unrelated to the central mission of the organization.
  • Members are encouraged or required to never say anything negative about the leadership.
  • The organization uses litigation as a means to silence dissident membership or outside organizations speaking against the group.
  • Community leaders are chosen by the central organization. Local communities have no say in who their representatives will be.
  • The governance structure of the central organization is ambiguous, hidden or unknown.
  • Obedience to the central organization is encouraged over all other values.
  • All finances are kept secret.
  • The leadership of the organization is preoccupied with the most intimate details of member’s lives including finances, sex and personal relationships.
  • Leadership tends to speak of the victim-hood of the organization even in endeavors where the organization has a majority or controlling influence.
  • Organizational history is overly sentimentalized and unflattering information is edited out of official documents.
  • The organization insists that it has primacy or is more important than all other organizations.
  • The group has an almost obsessive focus on the outward appearances of organizational buildings and properties, grass is meticulously cut, no litter is ever found, grounds are always perfect. A great deal of time and effort is spent on this resource.

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Warmestory's podcast.

0:03.4

I am your host, John DeLin.

0:05.2

It's April 24th, 2023, and we are live streaming tonight for another amazing episode with

0:12.8

the John Larson of Warm and Expression podcast.

0:16.1

For those of you who don't have the background back in a round, I would say 2009, 2010, an

0:22.4

important voice he merged within Warm and Discourse.

0:25.6

His name was John Larson, and he did a several years series of Warm and Theme podcast called

0:31.7

Warm and Expression podcast.

0:34.1

And while he shocked the world when he went into retirement, because of your generous

0:38.5

donations, we were able to bring him out of retirement where he does a monthly episode

0:42.4

on Warm and Stories podcast, you can donate to the John Larson, Warm and Expression,

0:47.0

Warm and Stories collaboration and project at warmestories.org slash, Warm and Expression,

0:52.3

all one word, you can also check out the entire back catalog of John's Warm and Expression

0:58.3

episodes, either on Spotify or on Apple podcasts, under the Warm and Expression moniker.

1:04.3

But we are back with John Larson today.

1:07.0

Want to thank those who are the super chats are already coming in.

1:10.8

LP Cat says John Larson's worth this before the show even starts.

1:16.5

John, you're bringing in donations before the podcast has even started.

1:20.3

Our B has already sent a super chat as well.

1:23.4

Welcome back to Warm and Stories podcast, John Larson.

1:26.0

Thanks, John.

1:27.0

It's my pleasure to be here.

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