We're in this weird place in the world now, maybe more acutely than at other times where, like, arrogance is either, sometimes we kind of like admire it, you know.

Sure.

Because it can come off sort of as confidence and discerning.

Yeah.

And it can play to our lower nature.

So we get behind the arrogant person. But also it's actually the

most repulsive thing, you know, arrogance in someone. It's a real turnoff. And you mentioned that if we

can understand it this way, that it can help us be sympathetic towards the arrogant person.

And I think, you know, that must really play out a lot in, in 12-step recovery, right?

Where, like, this person's gone and offended everyone in their life and, uh, or,

or let them down in some way.

But, but a lot of times, you know, addiction can play out in types of arrogance.

And then you're saying then the pendulum swings.

But that person's sponsor has to be the person that says, I understand you.

Right.

Right.

I understand that you're not arrogant.

And I understand that you're not the image of yourself when you're feeling that self-loathing.

I understand who you really are because I've been there myself and I recognize what it's like to be controlled by ones. We would, in the yogic, from a yoga perspective, we say controlled by your mind, right? Control by your sense is controlled by your mind. About your passions, your lower chakras. Yeah, that, yeah, yeah.

We might say passions is maybe something that, I don't know if that's a word that they've used in 12-step, but they would maybe speak of it more like that. But we need to have someone that's got clarity. And really, you know, honestly, maybe the word here is like sobriety, right? It's like, in other words, I'm not, if you come at me with your arrogance, that's not

going to shake me.

Right.

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