What's up ladies and gentlemen boys and girls around the world.

I would like to welcome you back to the Real Talk with Zuby podcast.

On today's episode I have got on Hawk Jensen, he is the co-producer of the

documentary which is called Follow the Science on Lockdowns and Liberty. Welcome to

the show, how are you doing? Yeah great, thanks for having me, appreciate it Zuby.

No doubt. So I've done a brief intro there but for people who are not familiar

with who you are because you've recently come out the shadows, tell them a

little bit about who you are and what it is that you're doing. Sure yeah, about

six months ago I and a bunch of colleagues in the film business in Los Angeles

area. We were looking at what was going on with the lockdowns and could see

really see that there was a problem and we you know like so many were like this

the the science doesn't add up the the lockdown seemed rather draconian and

we're just gonna we know something needs to be done and so we came

together and formed ultimately an anonymous group called SoundMine Creative

Group. It's a network of this as an artist and filmmakers because we were

concerned about cancel culture and it's actually we were already used to the

group think of L.A. and if you have your own original ideas or non and non

approved ideas in L.A. you don't work as much. So a lot of a lot of my colleagues

right all right we want to we want to work on this but how do we do so without

risking our normal careers and so we formed the SoundMine Creative Group and

with the sole purpose of creating a docu series that we're calling Follow the

Science on Lockdowns and Liberty. I'm a co-producer and but I'm attached to

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