What most people think and I'm not talking about the government in my first bit for weeks

I was talking about the government in fact I'm not means that maybe they've studied

the ship or maybe the ship is just damage bill just sort of lurch onto the hits and

iceberg maybe that's what's happened to the ship and I'm recording this just as a time stamp

on the afternoon of Tuesday before the England Wales game so we may have fucked it up and

there may have been mass suicides but hopefully hopefully the Welsh salvage and pride and

no doubt we sort of soldiered on wounded but I'm really excited because I'm going to jump

straight into my guess it's my first face to face guest since the dark times it's

Catherine Ryan back on the show welcome back to the show hey you've already got me like

very interested because I wish you would talk about the government I don't really know

what's going on lately and also why did you come here on a day that England's playing

well I got my don't get me wrong I did work out the time you know so there was a military

level operation I could be back in time I mean we will talk about I do want to scratch

sure is it scratch your own pick your brain about politics generally and stuff but I'm

here is this is the end of November and you've just had the Louis through documentary

guy which is excellent I mean I would say to people right now is if you've got time pause

this now watch that one I play that would be good because that would bring a bit of

texture to the podcast yeah would give them a solid backstory about who I am yeah because

I think Louis the room I mean has earned his reputation for being an amazing immersive

documentarian journalist I didn't even have to be a Nazi or a sex cult to have him come

round yeah he's low at the threshold isn't he entry requirements I worried at first I was

like what well I'm even being awesome as an implication yeah but he's just interviewing

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